I am going to re-run one of the blogs from the week before break. You must choose a second one different from the first and yes I will check. If you cut and paste yours or someone else's, I will give you a 0 on all blogs for this cardmarking.
There are many hypothesis on why Steinbeck kills Lennie. Below are 5 of them. Choose one and explain why this may be the best reason. Make sure that you make at least 2 specific references to the story with page numbers. This may take a few more than 7 sentences.
1. Lennie desires a “safe place,” and in death he will finally find his dream.
2. Lennie is animalistic. He cannot control his desires. He lacks the mental capacity to be conscious enough to know his own strength or to protect himself from others. But must all people who cannot control their desire to be killed?
3. Lennie is useless: Candy’s dog is killed because it is no longer useful. The same case may be applied to Lennie. But Lennie is useful to the rancher and to George.
4. Lennie is a disturbance of public order.
5. Society is responsible for the accident in which Lennie kills Curley’s wife.
49 comments:
Megan Fraser 5th hour
Last time I chose number 2 so this time I guess I'll go with 4. I don't really think this is the main reason why he is killed but some people could argue for it. He was a disturbance of public order because he killed Curley's wife without even realizing he was doing it. He was also just trying to touch that girl's dress in the last town they were in. When she didn't like that he didn't let go. He also killed all those rabbits and the puppy. He doesn't know his own strength and its not a good thing for the people around him. He only killed one person but he could do it again. He's not doing it on purpose either which is the scary thing. If he had remained alive he would have ended up getting in trouble and not having a good life.
Lennie desires a "safe place" and in death he will finally find his dream.
This is the best reason because he always wanted to tend them rabbits. He did something bad so he thought he would be unable to tend the rabbits. Now he's dead he may accomplish the dreams of tending the rabbits. In the book through numerouse chapters he explains how he wants nothing but to help George by tending the rabbits. George explains he can't do anything bad because he can't tend rabbits. In death he can feal safe and sound with his rabbits.
Whenever Lennie was scared he would find something soft to rub. Of course it got him in trouble, especialy in Weed. In death he may just find that safe place.
The hypothesis I am choosing this time is number 2. I am going with this one because Lennie couldn't control his disires. For example, him and the dead mouse, when George told him to drop it he started to beg because he was attached to it. He also doesn't know to control his strength. For example, is when he shook the puppy to hard. Lennie doesn't know when to protect himself, I think he protects himself by his strength. Lennie was mentally disabled so he couldn't control his disires, strength. I think Steinbeck killed off Lennie because when he finds something he disires and somebody keeps him from it he uses his strength to protect himself.
Katherine Walsh
6th hour
My first hypothesis was #2. This time I chose #4. From the beginning of the book you knew that Lennie had issues. Lennie and George had to leave Weed because Lennie touched a girl's dress. The girl cried rape (even though Lennie didn't rape her), he had no right to touch her dress. When Lennie was fighting with Curly, he held his hand so tight that he broke it- Again, Lennie did not have the right to physically harm another person. And lastly, Lennie killed Curley's wife by choking her. Yes, Lennie was mentally challenged, which made him a disturbance to public order. His actions hurt other people and eventually the public was going to take action one way or the other.
Mr. Kay,
The very last time I did this blog I did number 2, today I am going to do number 5. I don't agree that Society had anything to do with Lennie killing Curley's wife. I believe that no one had anything to do with Lennie's kill. Lennie's mind doesn't really work the way ours do. He has a mental disorder, when Curley's wife was screaming, the first thing that popped into his head was that he had to keep her quite so that he wouldn't get into trouble. Lennie was only doing what he thought would keep him safe and able to tend to the rabbits. He didn't expect to kill her at any cost. So for those reasons, I believe that Society had nothing to do with Lennie killing Curley's wife.
Danielle Turner
I think I am going to choose number 5 instead of 2 this time. I believe the reason society is to blame is because they were not very accepting of mentally challenged people at the time. Like in the beging where George tells Lennie not to say anything when they get to the ranch(p.15). That could be that he may something wrong and mess things up. Not because he can its because he may not know the proper thing to say at the time. Potentially costing him and George the job because people cant accept him for who he is. Also because no one told him the proper way to talk to people and shun him because of being disabled. Causing the problem in Weed by pulling the girls dress and causing her to panic and scream rape.(p11). If people didn't neglect him and push him away he would probably be in a better situation right now.
kevin anderson
6th hour
Number 4 seems to be another good hypothesis as to why Steinbeck would kill Lennie. Lennie was always a public disturbance. He got him and George run out of Weed because of what he did. "They was lookin' for us, but they didn't catch us." (Steinbeck 7) Lennie was accused of raping a woman and he never did this. However he had a lynch mob after him because the girl got everyone mad at him. He was constantly getting into trouble. He killed many things including people which is another example of why he disturbs public order. "Lennie, a man of tremendous size, has the mind of a young child." (Steinbeck, back of book) Lennie is a very intimidating guy. He doesn't try to dominate over people but people are scared of him. No matter how hard he tries to fit in, people will always view him differently. Lennie was an all around nice guy who was misunderstood which is why he gets killed in the end.
William Schwartz
6th hr
1. Lennie always felt safe when he was around george. Even though george killed lenne, he was gving lennie new life. Lennie wasnt cut out for the world he lived in, and george introduced lennie to world where his flaws didnt matter. Lennie found many things in his life that gave him a sense of security. Simple things like animals and soft things helped lennie cope with the world around him. Although the things lennie found most happy by led him to his death. George knew lennie couldnt adapt to life on earth, so he sent him to a safer place. A place where lennie didnt need to worry anymore.
deets
1. Lennie desires a “safe place,” and in death he will finally find his dream.
For my blog i have decided to use the hypothesis that Steinbeck killed Lennie so he could finally fine his dream. through out the story Lennie is portrayed as a very kind, but large man. Any time a fight arises Lennie always backed down. for example on page 55 Lennie tells Curley that he doesn't want to fight him. Lennie is not quick to anger or violent. Also through the story Lennie's character gives hope for the future. Like later on page 57 Lennie has goerge tell him a story about what kind of life they would have on the ranch. Through out the story Lennie was nothing but a kind and hopeful man, that was easily confused. I think many people found a connection with Lennie, because everyone has been misunderstood. So i believe Steinbeck killed Lennie to create the happiest ending that was possible. Any other ending, would have Lennie either in jail, or killed by the other men, or it would become very hard for them to find jobs and travel without getting caught. Lennie's dreams of the ranch were over, but george could grant him peace after death.
2. Lennie is animalistic. He cannot control his desires. He lacks the mental capacity to be conscious enough to know his own strength or to protect himself from others. But must all people who cannot control their desire to be killed?
lennie is a big guy, hes slower and doesnt no his own strength. he sets his mind on usually one certain thing. "Rabits". In the book, Lennie loved to pet softer things and he always went to far and ended up hurting them in the end, he really didnt no that he did something wrong until sumthing actually went wrong. Yes he felt bad but he always depended on george or others for help because he didnt really no better. I think that people should not be killed, lennie especially. when he kills the puppy, he does feel really bad but he really didnt no better on page 81 it explains what happens. "why do u got to get killed" see he really didnt no what he did. and at the end of the book everyone wanted to blow his guts out, and i dont believe thats right espically in his caase.
stefiee
Well I did this last week but unfortunately the one day I don't double check that my blog posted, it doesn't post. So this should be fairly easy to write.
-------------------------------------
I don't think that any of these are even close to the correct answer. Because I have to pick one, I will pick number one. I believe that he will find a safe place in death because I believe in heaven. He was causing to much trouble fro his own good with out even knowing what he was doing. He,in death can find peace unlike the time when was being chased by the guys from Weed after touching the Girls dress. Then the second time when he was running from Curly after accidentally killing his wife. I don't encourage man slaughter but in this situation it was probably the best idea.
I does kind of sound bad but in a way his death brought everyone some kind of peace.
~Red
6th
Last time i chose number 2 so this time i will go with number 1. In the book Lennie got put into different situations where he was not safe. For instance when he touched the girls dress and he put him and george into danger by being chased by guys that wanted him dead. Also, when he accidently killed Curleys wife and was again, chased by Curley and the other guys that wanted Lennie dead. In Lennies life he desires and deserves a safe place. "We gonna have a little place, an' rabbits," (pg 88) This quotation was stated by Lennie, his biggest dream was to tend to the rabbits. When he died, he got to live that dream and finally be in complete safety. "He pulled the trigger. The crash of the shot rolled up the hills and rolled down again. Lennie jarred, and then settled slowly forward to the sand, and he lay without quivering." (pg 106) This is when George shot Lennie to save him. As weird as that sounds, George truly did save Lennie, and put him in a better place, where he could finally live his dream.
Clare Pathe
I believe that the first choice is the next best explanation on why Steinbeck kills Lennie. Lennie seems to get into trouble mainly because of his desire of a "safe place". For example, George explains about how Lennie got them in trouble back in Weed. "Well, he seen this girl in a red dress. Dumb bastard like he is, he wants to touch ever'thing he likes. Just wants to feel it. So he reaches out to feel this red dress an' the girl lets out a squawk, and that gets Lennie all mixed up, an' he holds on 'cause that's the only thing he can think to do." (Steinbeck, 41) Lennie did not grab hold of the Lady's dress because he wanted to get friendly with her, he just wanted to feel safe. I think that Lennie also views the ranch him and George wanted to have as a safe place. It would have been a place where he could have lived away from society and the troubles that come with it. George realizes this too, and I think he knows that by killing him, Lennie will finally be in his safe place. He knows that at the rate they were going, Lennie and he were not going to be able to have their own ranch and get away from the struggles Lennie had with society. Lennie and George have this conversation before George kills him, "Lennie begged, 'Le's do it now. Le's get that place now.' 'Sure, right now. I gotta. We gotta.' And George raised the gun and steadied it, and he brought the muzzle of it close to the back of Lennie's head." (Steinbeck, 107) What I learned from George saying this is that he knew Lennie's ultimate safe place was not the place he was in at the time. George killed him because he knew that Lennie would finally be safe.
Kaleigh Swanson
5th hour
I feel that number two is the best hypothesis, because Lennie does have a mental handycap that he cannot help. His brain works slower, which dosen't allow him to think like a regular person would. He cannot cpntrol his action to a certain point becuase he dosen't think like a normal human beign. Like it says in the hypothesis, he doesn't know his own strength. "He shook her then, and he was angry at her. ...And her body flopped like a fish." (91) This happened when he got angery with Curely's wife and shook her, but dodn't realize that he had killed her until she fell over. He also gets overwemled very easily which angers him very much and he cannot control himself. He sees things and thinks they are threats. "an' he made like he's gonna bite me... an' I made like I was gonna smack him an'... an' I done it." (87) I believe that Lennie should not be in society with normal people, but still desvered to live. But since he did kill Curely's wife and harmed other living things he desvered to be put in jail, not killed.
John McLean
6th hour
Last time I believe I chose 1, so I will go with 5 this time. Society may not be the main reason for Lennie's death, but it is part of it. You see, if everybody hadn't made it so that George had to kill Lennie then they could've just run off. Instead society made it so that George had to kill his best friend. Like Curley said "I'm gonna get him." (Steinbeck pg96). Even Slim said "Well, I guess we gotta get him." (Steinbeck pg97). So society was all for killing Lennie, everybody except George and Candy.
Lennie desires a “safe place,” and in death he will finally find his dream.
I thought this one was the best. I think Lennie wants to be in a place that he wont hurt anyone. He wants to be able to know that he wont harm anyone if he touches them. "Well, he seen this girl in a red dress. Dumb bastard like he is, he wants to touch everything he likes. Just wants to feel it. So he reaches out to feel this red dress an' the girl lets out a squawk, and that gets Lennie all mixed up, an' he holds on 'cause that's the only thing he can think to do."page 41. Lennie didn't grab a hold of the Lady's dress to hurt her. He did it because he wanted to get friendly with her. He didn't meant o hurt her or make her feel offended. Also on page 55 Lennie tells Curley that he doesn't want to fight him. Lennie is not the kind of person who to get angery or violent.
The first time we did this blog i had choose #2, this time i am going with #1, beacause it makes sence if you think about it. Steinbeck kills Lennie in his novel, Of Mice and Men, to give a Lennie a safe place in heaven, where his dream can be fulfiled. The author doesn't want lennie to suffer by going to prison. He shows George killing him as being kind and merciful. "Look acrost the river, Lennie an I'll tell you so you can almost see it."(Steinbeck pg 105) George says this to lennie as he is geting ready to kill him. Steinbeck paints Lennie's dream for him as he kills him so he can live his dream. "You ain't gonna leave me, are ya George?" (Steinbeck pg 103) This shows the depth of Steinbeck freindship between Lennie and George.Finally Lennie has a safe place where he can not harm anyone at the end after George kills him. WHich is what Lennie needed all along but could not find, and what he longed for, which is seen through him asking George about the rabits and their house.
Shaun Gerber
Although I did number 2 last time, this time I chose number 4. The number 4 states, "Lennie is a disturbance of public order.". This is extremely true because everywhere Lennie goes he causes trouble for him and George. Such as in the last town where Lennie lost control and got accused of raping a girl. Even though he didnt actually rape her, he grabed her with his extreme strength and scared her. An angry mob chased after them. Later he would get another angry mob trying to kill him. Lennie meant no harm but he killed a woman. That is completely unexceptable, and proves he's dangerous and people should fear him. Lennie was out of control of his strength and frustrastion. He puts everyone around him in danger, meaning to or not, but it disturbes the peace which disturbes the public order.
Kristen Pauly
6th hr.
Taylor Dieck
6th hr.
I choose theory number four for why Steinbeck kills Lennie. Lennie is a true example of public disturbance. He cannot control himself when it comes to not touching soft objects. He got in trouble one time, for touching a girls dress. So obviously when the second oppurtunity comes up any person should know to refrain. However Lennie does not refrain because he has thoughts that do not register consiquences. He has no sense of what is right and wrong, it is true that in society he can be considered an outcast. In these times in which the novel was written people did not know how to react to the problems Lennie proposed. So in fact he was a true example of a public disturbance.
2.
I can agree that Lennie has an animalistic mindset. He feels the need to be cared for, loved unconditionally, and forgivness.
Though he does not mean it, he hurts others with no intention of serious injury. Even then, he doesn't know what he did, and how he could have possibly done it.
Lennie is a man of pure innocence. He doesn't know how to defend himself, or even give a punishing blow to his attacker. His ignorance to the evils of the world around him is what had killed him in the end. But it had helped him get through his (in my mind) tragic end.
I feel that even though he was so childish and like a dog, I think that not all people like him should be killed. I think it is unethical, the way people think of 'what's best for others'.
Steffeny Apollo
5th hour
I chose number 1. Number 1 say's "Lennie desires a “safe place,” and in death he will finally find his dream. I beleive this to be true. Lennie was only the happiest when he was touching soft things, like the bunnies. He really didn't fit in anywhere and was not very social. For example, when everyone was in the bunkhouse talking, he was in the barn with the puppies. In dying, he hets to do what ever he want s now and go pet soft things all day. There was no way that Goerge and Lennie were goin to make there dream. It was only something to look forward to during hard times. By dying Lennie made that dream and probly has all the bunnies in the world.
I think that nuber 4 is probably the best one besides the other one i choose. He is clearly a problem to society let alone a disturbance. Clearly people don't want to bring him anywhere because like in chapter 4 i believe they just left him on the ranch when they went into town. Also, the whole thing that happened in Weed. That alone was a huge issue which made them run from town and stuff. Plus, he isn't suppose to talk because that is pretty much a disturbance because if he does him and George could get cut or fired or whatever you call it. WEhen you look at it him causing problems in the ranch is just another reason he is a disturbance. Last , he causes so much trouble to everyone expecially George.
Ty Bouwens, 6th hour
1. Lennie desires a “safe place,” and in death he will finally find his dream.
Last time I chose 2 so this time I will go with 1. With Lennie having a disability and being so big and strong it really isnt safe for him to be around people. He already causes a lot of problems and he cant control himself. When he is killed, George may have thought it to be better for George rather then to go through all the consequences for killing Curley's wife. In his "safe place" he will fulfill his dream of tending the rabbits. He would be somewhere safe where he could be all by himself and have fun with the rabbits. He would have something soft to touch and he couldnt hurt nobody. Maybe he will find his "safe place" in death.
Troy Wojichowski 5th hr
5. Society is responsible for the accident in which Lennie kills Curley’s wife.
I think I chose 1 last time. Now I'm choosing 5. In a way I do blame society for what happened between Lennie and the wife. If Lennie where to of been watched like he should have been, then nobody would have gotten hurt. Lennie, being as big and strong as he is... Should of been being watched by George or some other man that could help him if he screwed up. That's my thought on it at least. Sorry I wasn't here today, Easter game me food poisoning.
Kymmie Brownson 6th
5th
Last blog I chose the second choice so now I will choose the first one. Lennie and George always had a dream to live off their own land, and be independent individuals. Lennie was most looking forward to tending for the rabbits, because he liked their soft fur. Both Lennie and George wanted a place where they could call their own and not worry about others and what they thought of them. On page 58 Lennie told his dream to George about the farm and the rabbits. But then, when Lennie killed Curley's wife, his dream was in jeopardy. If Curley or one of the other men were to find Lennie, then when he died he would live his last minutes in fear and terror. This is why George decided to kill Lennie himself. He knew that Lennie was going to die, so he should die peacefully. When Lennie died, it was in George's best wishes that death would bring Lennie's dream to him. On page 105, George distracts Lennie so he does not see death coming. Stienbeck had George kill Lennie so the tragic end would lead the reader to know Lennie was in a better place.
Last time I did number 1, so I am going to do number 2. Lennie is animalistic he can't control his disires. I agree with this statement. Lennie can't process though that what he wants he can't always gets. His mental capacity stops him from seeing what is ok to have and what is not. I think that sence Lennie is mentaly chanalanged he doesn't think about the conseqences. Lennie, not knowing about the conseqences will do what his mind is determined to do. He can't control his streath because of his mental capacity. He may think that he is peting something softly. When he really is hurting the thing. Lennie thinks that he is the same as everyone else and doesn't realize what he is doing.
Chris Reid
6th hour
Great, now I can't do my Candy example "I should'a shot the dog myself". The first one is the only one I can really agree with, but I'm going with #4 this time.
Well Lennie is a simplistic human, all Lennie wanted to do was have the farm with George(specifically tending to the rabbits). He killed not only a animal(Slim's dog's puppy pg85), he had killed Curley's wife(Pg.91)(She still needs a name, being identify as only as someone's possession must really suck). He should have been put in a foster home or a asylum. Clearly he hadn't learned self restraint. He is a danger to society and the overall public order. Punishment should not have been death, punishment in realizing his actions would be enough. Explaining to him there will no longer be a Curley's wife on this earth. The only flaw in this plan is that Lennie might not comprehend this.
Derek Guckian 5th hour
Mr. Kay,
I chose to do the one about it was best for Lennie. I think that George had the right thinking on this one. He thought that if LEnnie was dead, he could acheive every one of his dreams up there. Down on earth, there are many limitations to what you can do. When you up in heaven, there is nothing holding you back. George again, was just doign what was best for Lennie. I know that it seems like a harsh way to go out, but it was the best thing for LEnnie.
Mr. Kay,
Last time I chose 2 and the next one I feel is logical is number 4.
The second most logical reason of why Steinbeck kills Lennie is that he is a disturbance to public order. To me, this just means that Lennie is uncontrollable. He is disrupting events and causing trouble for people so something had to be done. Then people started realizing it is to hard to keep Lennie under control and something had to be done, which led to George believing Lennie shouldn't be in jail, so the best option is to kill him. But this, Lennie getting into trouble isn't just a once in a while things. In fact, the story begins with the two running away from a place where Lennie got into trouble. As explained on page 41, the trouble that Lennie causes back in Weed make him a nuisance. I am sure it was hard on George to have to up and leave for Lennie. He is now disturbing Georges life (though Gerorge chose to go on his own, but he couldn't really just let him go). Also, he is always doing things he isn't told making it hard for anyone to keep up with him. Early in the story, He is told he can't see the puppies because they are to young and he would hurt them, but as we know, on page 85, he goes ahead and kills a puppy. So he is hard to control, but maybe he is a bit to hard to control and that's why he needed to be put down. I still feel like I am going back to this idea of him being animalistic, but really, he is just to had to keep up with and he disturbs to much. I wish it wasn't like this, but simply, he is a disturbance that people can't deal with.
Luke LaFountain
5th Hour
sorry kind of short!!
...George must have known that those dreams that LEnnie had were very far fetched and unrealistic. SO he must have thought that he couldnt achieve those dreams on earth.
John Kent
5th Hour
Lennie is animalistic. Steinbeck compares him like a terrier in the book. (Pg 9) His strength is animalistic. He crushed Curley’s hand after George told Lennie to “get’im”. (Pg 63) He is like an animal waiting for a command. He cannot control his desires. Lennies desire’s soft things, like the mice and the puppy’s fur. He lacks the mental capacity to be conscious enough to know his own strength or to protect himself from others. An example of how he cannot control his own actions is when he pets the mice so hard that they bite him then he pinched their little heads. (Pg 10) The combination of his mental disability, strength, inability to control his desires, and his animalism is dangerous. He doesn’t intend to kill Curley’s wife. He got nervous and panicked. He lost control. I think if people lose control of their desire they shouldn’t be killed. But Steinbeck makes it clear that Lennie would be better off dead. He couldn’t control his animalistic behaviors.
Many people could argue that number 4 is the best readon for Lennie's death. However, I don't really agree with it (I like number 2), but here are some resons why such people might say so. Leenie was a disturbance of public order becasue he was unaware of what he was doing all the time. He killed Curley's wife unintentionally, and in Weed he got ran out of town on accident. He disturbs other people becasue of his carelessness or just plain unawareness of what's goin on. He didn't mean to grab onto the dress or Curley's wife's hair, he just did it becasue he was panicing. The book explains, "Well, he seen this girl in a red dress. Dumb bastard like he is, he wants to touch ever'thing he likes. Just wants to feel it. So he reaches out to feel this red dress an' the girl lets out a squawk, and that gets Lennie all mixed up, an' he holds on 'cause that's the only thing he can think to do." (Steinbeck - page 41). Also, on page 55, we find out that he kills a puppy on accident. Therefore, someone could argue that Lennie was just disrupting public order. Maybe the best choice for him would have been to put him in a place for people like him.
On the previous blog like this I chose 2 so my next choice is 5. I disagree with this statement because it was no one's fault. If anyone, it was Curleys wifes fault herself for putting herself in danger. Lennie doesn't think like a normal person does, nor does he react like a normal person. When he killed Curley's wife, all he could think about was how he wont be able to tend the rabbits. Another example is when Lennie is when she screams. A normal person would usually back off or back down. Lennie however could only think of tending the rabbits. He knew that if George heard her scream, he wouldn't get to tend the rabbits. Lennies whole thought process is different than a normal person. These examples from the book are why I believe society was not responsible for the death of Curleys wife.
Cody Kabisa
5th hour
For the last blog like this, I chose number one as the best hypothesis. This time I will be choosing the 4th hypothesis, "Lennie is a disturbance of public order." I believe that this is very true. Back in the town of Weed, Lennie was accused of raping a girl, because he was touching her dress. (Steinbeck p.7) Lennie didn't mean any harm by this. He just simply likes to touch soft and silky objects, and it just so happens her dress was soft and silky. Lennie always caused trouble for him and George. George usually has to find a way out of the messes Lennie creates (accidentally). Now, when Lennie receives a dog, he does care for it, but since Lennie is a man of large size, he doesn't realize his own strength, because of this reason is causes him to kill the puppy, the mice, and Curley's wife, without any intention of doing so. Since Lennie killed someone without realizing he was even hurting her, what could happen when he was mad at someone? What would he do then? What would George do? By George killing Lennie, he was not only saving Lennie from future problems, and not having a good life, he was also saving animals and people that could of been harmed by Lennie. This is what proves this hypothesis is true, Lennie can be a disturbance to the public.
Alanna Nagi
6th hour
The first time I choose hypothesis #2. For this evening I will respond to hypothesis #1. I think Lennie always dreamed of a safe place. He may not realize that he is being made fun of and ridiculed but all along he wishes for a safe place that makes him happy. I think he is sick of running around as a migrant worker and wants to settle down were he is happy as he has said several times throughout the book. For example "We gonna have a little place, an' rabbits," (pg88) Lennie also imagines George in his dream. Lennie was very dependent on George and had a very good friendship with him. This was shown when Lennie said "You ain't gonna leave me, are ya George?" (pg103)Lennie and George cared for each other a lot. I believe George helped Lennie get to his safe place by killing him. Lennie no longer has to worry about going from town to town he can stay in his safe place and tend to his rabbits. The only negative about his safe place is his friend George is not there with him.
Taylor Wattles
5th
My first hypothesis was #2 and now i will choose number #4. Lennie is always doing something to hurt or affect someone. Lennie was a disturbance to everyone. He was a disturbance to George because now he must look after him, this causes much stress towards George. Next, he affected the town of Weed by grabbing onto the girl. He was disturbing the whole community and making htem angry to catch him. He was a disturbance to the Ranch because he afffected everyones lifestyle. Everyone was now faced with a slow person when they didnt think they were being affected. Next, he hurt curley and his wife, he broke fingers and killed the wife. As lennie didnt know he was doing it, he hurt society more than he contributed to it.
Once again I will have to say that the hypothesis that most agree with was "Lennie desires a "safe place," and in death he will finally find his dream." In the novel Of Mice And Men by John Steinbeck. When Lennie killed Curly's wife the first thing that he said was I done a bad thing. Eairler in the story George told Lennie that if anything bad ever happen, Lennie was to go to the brush. I think that in heaven that is his brush. Nobody can hurt him anymore. He can not hurt anyone else. The last part of the statement was "in death he will finally have his dream." Lennie in heaven will be able to have all the rabbits he wants. He can not kill them, or hurt them.
i think that i will go with number 4. i Don't think that Lennie is a disturbance to his society, he is just mistaken. many people think that he is a disturbance because he kills curly's wife, but he did it completely on accident. although Lennie is mentally challenged with the right instruction he could fill a productive roll in society. this alone isolates Lennie from being a disturbance. as long as Lennie could learn to be more gentle he would be completely tolerable with in society. his only problem is that he does not understand how strong he is. even an elephant can be tamed with the right training.
2. Lennie is mentally challenged, therefore he cant control his actions as well as a normal human. On pg 10, George talks about how Lennie had grabbed he womans dress and wouldnt let go. He definetly doesnt know his strength. I say this because he never thought he was capable of killing curleys wife. On pg 100, is explains that lennie grabbed her neck and shook her. He didnt realize he was capable of this. He just needs a little help. They all shouldnt be killed because they dont know better.
5. Society doesnt give people the chances they need, especially toward mentally challenged. If only curleys wife would of asked him to stop, that she felt uncomfortable, instead of screaming. But society looks at them as very dangerous. They need to understand mentally challenged people need a little more help and patience than the average person.
amy urbanik
5th hour
My second choice for the hypothessis would be number one. I feel this is also a good hypothesis because lennie does have special disabilities but he should somewhat be able to keep it within the killing range. Lennie's one dream was to tend the rabbits and this was his happy place. But from minor to major mistakes made he must suffer the consiquences. death may sound bad but now with lennie resting peacefully the society just become a small percentage safer. Not meaning lennie is a bad person but he must suffer in this way due to actions made. But this killing of him is not a bad bad thing, he is now in heaven resting peacefully tending the angel bunnies.
conner
well, i believe, and will look, that i did not have a specific thing written down for it, but i believe i did highlight on number 5, without agreeing to it, so i am out of luck on that one.
I think we ned to look at him in a more docile, and non-serious matter, like a child. if you were lennie, wouldn’t you want to live? doesn’t everyone want to live for as long as possible? maybe its just me, but something like killing someone, can be a very epic thing. to me, and this is off topic a bit, but, i do not believe anyone can accept their fate 100%, because, your taking a big leap into a lifetime of hope, that there is a beyond. and while some people can see it, and accept it; i challenge it, and i challenge a lot of things i shouldn't. but that’s the game, and that’s how i play it.
aside from my views, once again, i cannot choose one, and i can not NOT choose one. because while he 1. could very easily want to find a better place than the god green earth he was born on, just as i mentioned above, you can never be for sure.
2. while he is animalistic at times, and certainly lacks mental capacity most of the time, is it right for us the kill him? because, remember, he was somebody's son. plus, you are taking the worlds pain on your shoulder if you were to murder someone.
3. while he may be intellectually useless, he sure cn do heavy lifting, as mentioned early in the book. why waste a perfectly good resource that you could just watch more carefully?
4. he obviously disturbs the public, and unfortunately once, to an extreme extent, but other than that, don't we have people like that in our lives anyways? are there not people who disturb the order? but doesn’t it keep us in the ever balancing, and ever struggle to keep the world in an inverted pendulum state? hoping that it does not stray to far, and cause the world to coming crashing down around us?
5. while society is responsible for accident, they are responsible in the anti way you are to think of it. they never took care, and they never challenged to what extent he could use his power to harm others. they never asked the questions.
a great man once said to keep your friends close, and your enemies closer, and another man, which i believe is Lee Iacoca would keep those who disagreed, and made his ask the questions, closer to him, because the more they challenged him, and the more that they made him use his brain power, the more he liked having them around, cause they made him think. no had the authorities only asked the questions, and made them think, they could have easily prevented this.
i gave a little opinion on each, both the pro and con that I immediately saw. i can not choose a side, because, well, i just can not. i am too deeply rooted in both sides.
with all of that said and done; i think you are not pushing us into the deeper thoughts of this book. your not pushing us far enough to get into deep discussions, and while i am searching for the deeper truth about many things, i think that we should try to go into the greater motifs, and what they have to do with our morales. lime for instance, why can we not look at this in the sense that he just murdered someone? how can we never look at the same book twice, and never get the same out of it. how can we not see the unintentional themes going on?
i think we need to have a discussion like that, with the class, and how the roots of not only this book, but so many others, are dug into the ground so far that they come out the other side, of, wherever. and because of that, what life lessons you get out of it.
Nicholas Visger
nickvisger@me.com
"challenging the world since 1993"
1.I think that a good reason steinback could have killed lennie is because He wanted to be in a safe place. Death is deffinetly a safe place. Maybe he could finally get what he wanted. The property and all the animals. He wants to tend to the rabbits maybe now he actually can. Lennie felt safe when he was with george. Although george killed lennie he did it for his own good. He did it top put him in a safer place where none of his disabilities mattered.
Katlyn Twigg 6th Hour
Last time I chose number two. For this time I will go with number one. Lennie desires a “safe place,” and in death he will finally find his dream. This means that instead of the safe place being where George told him to go to a specific place, this time Lennie's safe place is death. "He pulled the trigger. Lennie jarred, and then settled slowly forward to the sand, and he lay without quivering." pg 106. I feel that this means that Lennie is safe and away from all harm to him, and harm that he causes.
Samantha Casteel
5th hour
I am going to choose hypothesis number one. To Lennie finding anything soft help him feel safe. He petted the women in weed because her dress looked soft not because he was trying to do anything to her. George says "Well, he seen this girl in a red dress. Dumb bastard like he is, he wants to touch ever'thing he likes. Just wants to feel it. So he reaches out to feel this red dress an' the girl lets out a squawk, and that gets Lennie all mixed up, an' he holds on 'cause that's the only thing he can think to do." (Page 41) Lennie was always searching for anything soft weather it was petting the mice or feeling the girls dress in Weed. Another time he wanted to feel something soft was his last. When George started to pet the Curley's wifes hair, Lennie said" Oh! that's nice, and he stroked harder, Oh that's nice"( Page 91). He doesn't realize when he should stop doing certain things. And so I feel that this hypothesis comes into play because throughout the entire book. Lennie is petting thing. It starts with the girl in Weed then the mice and then the hair of Curley's wife. And he was always getting in trouble for petting these things, and so now that he is dead he wont have to search to feel safe anymore.
Hannah Aittama
5th Hour
last time we did this i chose number 2 so ill do number 1. you could look at it that Lennie wanted a safe place and he could really only get there if he was dead. by saying this it means that Lennie could be in a happier place. when he was here he was always getting into trouble and chassed after. like when they had to leave Weed for what Lennnie did to that girl.(page 7) When Curley started to beat up Lennie prbably felt intimidated(page 63) He didn't fight back until George told him to, if George never said anything Curley could have hurt Lennie. asl oat the end of the story when Lennie accidentally kills Curley's wife they have to run away. so Lennie would always be in danger because people would be looking for him.
I'm going to choose number 4 because Lennie no doubt was a disturbance to the public. In Weed when they were run out of town, Lennie pulled on a girls velvet dress and caused her to believe he was raping her.(11-12) Lennie was the reason why they were never able to stay in one spot. Lennie couldn't stay out of trouble at the ranch they were working at. Lennie killed Curley's wife and caused everyone to want him dead.(91) Everyone felt that all Lennie could do was cause trouble. George decided that he was done causing distress and chaos. What George did was good for everyone and the good of the public.
4Lennie is a public disturbance. I think that Steinbeck kills leenie because he is a public disturbance. On page 65 George says"He would be better off dying. Theyd kill him in jail". Also, steinbeck kills him because he knows that Lennie will be better off. "Lennie has the mind of a small child" (Steinbeck)pg.96) This quote is correct because Lennie cannot control what he is doing. He just thinks he is touching her nice dress and that is it. Also, in weed he just wants to pet the girl but she thought otherwise. It is not his fault but he is a public disturbance to society. I hate to say it.
Blanz 6th
ill get back to this one. I dont know what do do or say
Mr.Kay,
For my blog i will go along with the hypothesis that society is resonsible for the accident in which curleys wife is killed. I think this is the reason becasue it's not lennies fault, he cannot control himself and he needs someone there to protect him. One example is when Lennie is ran out of their firt town becasue he didnt know any better and touch the womans dress. I dont think Lennie fully understood what was going on becasue it was made into the big deal that it was not. Another example is when Curley's wife is killed. Lennie dosent know how to control himself and can act on his impulse's to often. I think geroge should should have never left his side becasue he knew Lennie couldnt control his actions. The society should have figured out that Lennie was Mentally disabled and put him in a place where he could get the care he needed without hurting anyone.
Brittney Cooper
6th hour
Post a Comment